*** DanQ changes topic to 'Apolyton 2nd Birthday Chat -- NOW!'
*** DanQ sets mode: +m
[DanQ] Good day, ladies and gentlemen. We're ready to start...
[DanQ] I'm glad that you are able to join us on this momentus occasion as together we celebrate Apolyton's 2nd Birthday. I promise that these opening remarks will not take up too much time, and afterwards the channel will become unmoderated again.
[DanQ] What a year it has been, no? I think the past twelves months speak for itself. There is still more be done, but I believe that we are well on track. I am pleased to be here, as it is not everday that I have the opportunity to wind down and just chat about the thing that we love -- Civilization.
[DanQ] Both Markos and I are here, and we are prepared to answer any questions you may have. We will answer them as quickly as possible after they are asked. We may also be having some special guests join us as the chat progresses :)
[DanQ] That said, any and all questions -- to ourselves, amongst yourselves or with any guests -- must be civil in tone and should be Civ/site related (that's why we're here, after all!) Also, there may be some subjects that we or others may decline to comment on, and we ask that you respect that.
[DanQ] Finally, after this get-together is over we invite you to take a look at the Birthday Feature we have put together if you have not already:
[DanQ] http://apolyton.net/about/2years
[DanQ] Without further delay, let's get this show on the road......
[DanQ] :)
[DanQ] One more thing...
[DanQ] Markos and I reserve the right to kick anyone off the channel that we feel is being disruptive...
[DanQ] ... and to go into moderation mode if things are going out of hand while the official chat period is going on.
[DanQ] I am mentioning this now so there is no misunderstanding down the road.
[DanQ] Now that that is out of the way, let's part-ty! :D
*** DanQ sets mode: -m [MarkG] and I hope you guys dont need a 10-page faq descring what's "being disruptive" :)
[Hueij] Happy Bday Dan and Markos!
[PaulHanson] Let the spam commence:)
[SMACFanatic] hear hear
[Ramo] what is this thing you call "civ-il-iz-a-tion"? ;)
[DanQ] Thank you, thank you
[Comrade_Dan] *the party is now surrounded by elite Israeli guards*
[SMACFanatic] lol Ramo
[WarVoid] Happy Birthday :)
[DanQ] Hey Hasdrubal, we just started
[Andz83] Yeah, Happy Birthday, Apolyton!!
[PaulHanson] Where`s Ming?
[DanQ] (the official portion of the chat)
[Jasonian] Happy Birthday! Whooo
[Hasdrubal] Happy Birthday!
[DanQ] Welcome back, CtG
[Paul] Happy birtday Apolyton
[Bill3000] Happy Birthday!
[CtG] did imiss anything?
[Andz83] and what about the special guests?
[Cthol] Ming will come if he wakes up. :D
[GSquid] OK...somebody better have made a special Civ scenario they're reserving for this momentous occasion, because I want it...
[CtG] happy birthday ACS
[SMACFanatic] round of applause for Apolyton everyone
[Comrade_Dan] anyone notice that there is no difference between before and after DanQ's speech?
[PaulHanson] Hip hip...
[Andz83] and what about the special guests?
[SMACFanatic] HURRAY!
[PaulHanson] hurray!
[Andz83] Sid Meier?
[Bill3000] yep CD. :-)
[PaulHanson] Ming?
[Hueij] yeah right andz
[LightEning] The special quests will arrive when they want... for they are superior human beings...
[Jasonian] Yeah... where is Ming?
[DanQ] So, who's got a Civ/site related question for Markos and/or I?
[Andz83] no, I want Sid Meier AND Ming!!! :-)
[MarkG] Well, we sent out invitations to the people who replied our questions for the special feature. Nothing certain if anyone will come...
[CtG] everyone: i was here
[CtG] and now i must leave
[Christantine] bye
[DanQ] Yes, there are no guarantees that we will be having any special guests but we are hoping so.
[CtG] have fun alll
[WarVoid] bye
[Andz83] Markos: can you mention some examples?
[Hueij] already?
[Empress] I thougth I was the special guest ;p
[CtG] bye
[SMACFanatic] anyone want the first words of an upcoming SMAC story?
[Bill3000] will you install more UBB hacks?
[DanQ] By Christantine... sorry you can't stay longer!
[Cthol] I'll bet "sid meier" comes here, but it's just markos' DL.
[SMACFanatic] in .txt 4mat
[Andz83] Markos: can you mention some examples?
[Hueij] you are empress :)))
[LightEning] OK. MarkG/DanQ. What was the cause of the slowdowns?
[Andz83] Cthol: LOL
[Jasonian] Hey, I have a question.
[Andz83] yeah, what's been the cause?
[Comrade_Dan] DanQ - has anyone done a full-length research paper on nuclear weapons in Civ 2?
[Christantine] i was saying bye to CtG not to all of you
[MarkG] Andz, some said the will if they can, other said they cant(Brian Reynolds for example is on vacation for example)....
[DanQ] LE: See the Apolyton forum. GS is still investigating the root of the cause, and is not releasing anything more on it until they are sure.
[Hueij] hahahaha CtG
[PaulHanson] Dan/Mark: How do I get a size 127 city with the minium of fuss?
[Comrade_Dan] then say 'Bye CtG'...
[DanQ] CD: Not that I am aware...
[DanQ] PaulHanson: cheat like heck ;)))
[Strategist] fuss? what are fuss?
[LightEning] Thanks, I already knew that. Let's hope Stodlum didn't hack Apolyton ;)...
[PaulHanson] Cheat? I won`t stand for it, Dan:)
[MarkG] Paul, why are we supposed to now? ;)
[Bill3000] any news on new aditions on Civ3?
[DanQ] hehehehe
[Christantine] Bye
[Strategist] fuss? what are fuss?
[PaulHanson] Good question Mark
[DanQ] Bill3000: don't have enough information to make a concrete statement, but the chances are good
[SMACFanatic] anyone know the best place to get Alien Crossfire?
[DanQ] Bye CD
[Bill3000] ok.
[Jasonian] CompUSA is pretty good
[SMACFanatic] translation: best=cheapest
[SMACFanatic] and hopefully somewhere in the UK
[WarVoid] Electronics Boutique SMACFan
[Jasonian] Never mind then...
[PaulHanson] Try EB
[DanQ] Hey Drow, glad you could join us!
[SMACFanatic] u sure they stock it WarVoid?
[Ramo] cheapest? look up smac:alien crossfire warez on the internet..... :)
[Hueij] hi drow
[LightEning] The quality of SMACX dosn't change very much between stores... I think... :)
[WarVoid] yeah
[Drow] god damit this modem sucks... well it's made in greece what did i expect...
[WarVoid] That's where I bought it
[Drow] ;)
[Andz83] MarkG: any other guests than ONLY Brian Reynolds?
[DanQ] Hi again CD
[SMACFanatic] which store?
[PaulHanson] I`m a celebrity...
[Jasonian] Speaking of SMACX, Dan/Mark, is there any talk of another expansion for SMAC?
[Andz83] I mean Brian Reynolds couldn't, but what about others?
[Hueij] you are?
[DanQ] For those who have just joined us: feel free to ask Markos and I any questions Civ/Apolyton related (civily). We'll respond ASAP and the order they come in
[LightEning] Heck, we could get Richard Garriot here, but it is only a possibility... ;)
[DanQ] Jasonian: not that we are aware of, no
[Drow] MARKOS/DANQ kick Cthol out i got disconnected!
[Jasonian] Darn
[PaulHanson] Well, I share a surname with a bunch of blonde teenyboppers...
[Ramo] i managed ot find a copy of SMAX for about $20 at Barnes & Nobles
[Andz83] who is Richard Garriot?
[Empress] any chance on gender specific titles? ;) or are we supposed to ask in private?
[Drow] test
[DanQ] Drow: Cthol timed out, you can change your nick back if you want
[Andz83] who is Richard Garriot?
[LightEning] Don't you know him? The creator of Ultima? (I am not sure if I remember the name correctly)
[MarkG] Andz, as we havent got any "i'll be there 100%" reponses, let's not say anything :)
[DanQ] Andz83: dunno who you're talking about :)
[DanQ] No Empress, you can ask them here
[DanQ] I'll defer the gender specific title question to Markos :D
[Cthol] allright
[Comrade_Dan] *yawn*
[MarkG] SMACF, no info on something new smac related product....
[Bill3000] MarkG: Will you ever fix the thread per day hack on the OT to 3 per day?
[Comrade_Dan] Hey marky - when are you updating the scrolls?
[Andz83] but can't you please mention the ones who were asked?
[PaulHanson] The turnouts pretty poor: 6500 registered members and only 20-odd show up for the chat...
[DanQ] Ah, ok (re: Garriot)
[Empress] yeah sure, pass the buck... ;)
[MarkG] Adnz, check those who answered in the special feature
[LightEning] Andz: You can see them from the 2 years feature..
[LightEning] I just forgot that I am not MarkG. I'm sorry.
[SMACFanatic] hi Polaris
[MarkG] gender titles, viking scribes: it's on my list
[Hasdrubal] Is there like a list of posters who have posted at the forum in, say, the last three months?
[DanQ] Andz: you can check the 2 yea... oh wait, that's been answered, hehehe
[DanQ] Hey Polaris
[Bill3000] MarkG: Will you ever fix the thread per day hack on the OT to 3 per day?
[Polaris] Hello.
[DanQ] Hi biased
[Andz83] lol, DanQ
[PaulHanson] Hello all
[LightEning] Hi, posterbot!
[Hasdrubal] I've always wondered how many of these 6500 actually use their handle
[Hueij] hi edge
[Cthol] I HAVE a question: how did markos and dan meet?
[Cthol] each other
[DanQ] The official chat begun just a short while ago
[Bill3000] hi biased
[MarkG] OT threads/day limit, not sure, especially after the last thread where several people said it was better the current way
[DanQ] Feel free to ask any Civ/Apolyton questions to Markos and I, and we'll respond ASAP and in the order they come in (for those who just joined us)
[Hueij] keep it this way!
[biased] 'ello.
[Bill3000] ok, thanks
[Andz83] hi edge...self biased!
[Polaris] Question: Does my account work yet? (DanQ) :D
[LightEning] People have got used to the situation at Philippines... (A metaphor about the thread limit)
[biased] i take it that there's no way to italicize my words, is there...
[Hueij] make it one post/day
[Jasonian] For the record, I would like 3/day better then 1/8 hours
[DanQ] Good question, Cthol. Well, I don't remember the first time I talked to Markos to be quite honest but I believe it was shortly after his Greek site opened in Oct '96
[MarkG] Hasdrubal, several hundred over a period of 2-3 weeks
[DanQ] Polaris: hehehehe, we'll talk about that over ICQ
[PaulHanson] 1/8 hours is fine. Spam threads have al but disappeared since it was introduced
[Polaris] Righto
[Paul] Hueij, one POST/day? that will certainly cut down traffic
[DanQ] Do you remember Markos? :)
[MarkG] slightly :)
[Andz83] yes we rememeber Markos
[Andz83] :)
[Hueij] paul: no, it will cut down spam :))
[DanQ] We starting talking on a regular basis in June '98 after the announcement of CTP
[PaulHanson] I don`t. Who is he
[biased] just a post per day? how can you get any spammm. umm discussion done?
[Bill3000] only slightly? :)
[Bill3000] that would be cruel and unusual punishment. ;) j/k
[MarkG] it's been 4 years bill... :)
[Andz83] BTW, remember what?
[Comrade_Dan] not at all...
[WarVoid] Any new news on Dinos?
[Polaris] All right; Ive had no free time. 10 hrs of work, now this, and working on the "Secret Project", working on Carpe Diem, the Art of War, Diplomacy Games.... sigh, sigh, sigh!
[Bill3000] Yeah... in Dinos... will it be Turn-Based?
[DanQ] WV: the latest news we learned of was/is the content of the 8th Dino Diary (published early July)
[Andz83] BTW, remember what?
[WarVoid] That's it?!?!
[Hasdrubal] I love dinos! Can't wait to get a proper game about them!
[LightEning] Weird, looks like the crowd doesn't really care about the Dinos...
[MarkG] that's what hobbies are for Polaris: to make your free time disappear :)
[biased] is it just me, or am i the only that is less than enthused about the new "dinos" game...
[Polaris] Hehehe :)
[Ramo] i don't know... an rts game.....
[PaulHanson] I`m not really that bothered either...
[MarkG] we'll be hearing mnore about dinos in fall...
[Hueij] me neither edge
[Polaris] I consider my job a hobby; if its fun, I guess... :)
[WarVoid] I think it's gonna be Sid's first flop.... :(
[Bill3000] hmm... ok.
[Comrade_Dan] I really couldn't care less, biased...
[Spekter] I'm waiting to see Dinos before I comment
[Andz83] what are you remembering, MarkG and DanQ and all the others?
[PaulHanson] you mean the autumn:)
[SMACFanatic] Polaris - remind us what your job is?
[DanQ] Yeah, it's been 4 years! August 7th, 2000 will mark 4 years of my being a webmaster in the online Civilization community. August 7th, 1996 I took over the day-to-day operations of the Ultimate CivII Site
[DanQ] :)
[Bill3000] I'm more exited about Civ3 though.
[MarkG] the fall :)
[PaulHanson] autumn:)
[DanQ] Andz83: the early days :)
[Polaris] novice astronomer
[Bill3000] wow! :)
[Spekter] Free time???
[LightEning] The time between summer and winter, after summer.
[SMACFanatic] ditto!
[Polaris] in 2-3 years, I hope to be a full-time astronomer
[SMACFanatic] but very novice
[Jasonian] I'm kind of sunsure about the whole concept... if they make it good then great! [Andz83] yeah, I'm also more excited about Civ3 than Dino thingy [Polaris] nice! [Andz83] thnx danQ [Polaris] Finally! Another astroman here at ACS [MarkG] hmmm and on August 5th we opened for the first time as Apolyton... :) [Bill3000] astroman? [WarVoid] LoL [Polaris] astronomer.... [Comrade_Dan] what I would like to know is...how old are you, Dan and markos? [LightEning] Hmm... doesn't that rhyme... " Thank you Dan Q. " [Spekter] Civ 3, Drool... [DanQ] ~ eerie music starts in background ~ ;))) [SMACFanatic] I'm not wonderful, and my telescope's currently in for repairs, but even so... [Polaris] I thought it was obvious :) [DanQ] CD: I'm 19 [SMACFanatic] I can tell Eta Carinae from the Horse's Head nebula at least [WarVoid] Mark is 23 [PaulHanson] And Mark? [Andz83] 2 [Andz83] 23 [Polaris] I received a new telescope for my early birthday present from my folks [Bill3000] wow, 19!? cool! [biased] from what i've been hearing it'll do to civ 2 what quake did to wolfenstein. [Polaris] I am 23 [PaulHanson] Younger than I thought [DanQ] Yep :) [Andz83] I am 16. so what? [Bill3000] Yeah, Paul [Andz83] Ming is 45 [Andz83] 45!!!!!! [SMACFanatic] I is an ickle 15 [Cthol] yes [WarVoid] gah [Bill3000] Luckily Age doesn't matter on the internet [biased] 20 'ere. [Ramo] i'm only 15, as well [PaulHanson] I`m only 16 as well [Hasdrubal] 30 [Bill3000] I'm 14! [WarVoid] I'm 21 [Hueij] polaris, you should play F:E2 :)) [Andz83] well. nice Birthday chat [Bill3000] well, in August [Cthol] i'm 16 [Andz83] everyone talks about HIS own age [DanQ] OK, let's have everyone say what their age is now [GSquid] I'm 15 too. [Empress] why does the startup screen keep flashing? [DanQ] :D [Spekter] How long have you teens been playing civ? [Jasonian] ! [Polaris] What is F: E2? [Hasdrubal] Crap, talking to a bunch of kiddies here [Andz83] I've been playing Civ since 1992 [Bill3000] hehe... Thread Hijacked! j/k ;) [Hueij] Elite 2, space sim [SMACFanatic] thanks a lot Hasdrubal! [DanQ] Empress: are you connected to this room through the Javachat page? [PaulHanson] Since I got Civ1 in 1995 [Andz83] LOL, Bill [Hasdrubal] I didn't know they had internet at Kindergatens [Empress] yes [GSquid] And I'm talking to a Carthaginian general who's been dead 2000 years. Your point? [Andz83] I've been playing Civ since 1992 [DanQ] Any other questions for Markos and I (Civ/Apolyton related)? [DanQ] Hey dStryker [Bill3000] LOL [Empress] I dunno how to connect IRC [Jasonian] I'm 17... wait, that's what the age FAQ is for! [Ramo] actually, i didn't play Civ2 until SMAC [Polaris] SMACFanatic, I have a XS-201 telescope [MarkG] well, we got 22 people(with the bot) currently... [Comrade_Dan] I'm surrounded by civ freaks! [biased] jeez... damn near since it came out... i remember playing on my old AT. [Jasonian] You wish Bill ;-) [Empress] and I'm in a multiplayer civ game too... so that might have something to do with it? [SMACFanatic] I wouldn't know one of them from a cardboard tube actually [SMACFanatic] sorry [Cthol] Z's my idol! [MarkG] see mirc.com empress [Comrade_Dan] Playing since late '98 [SMACFanatic] VERY amateur [Bill3000] my wish what? :) [DanQ] Empress: See http://apolyton.net/misc/chat/irc.shtml [PaulHanson] Dan/Mark: Are you pleased with the way Apolyton (particularly the forums) have worked out? [Andz83] Z is cool! [Empress] thanks [PaulHanson] Z`s my mate... [Jasonian] Hey dStyrker! [That_Lighty_Guy] And now the connection got dropped... I wonder is there a problem with Sonera... [Andz83] I am Z [Andz83] Z is me [DanQ] Paul: Absolutely. I'm sure I speak for Markos too when I say that Apolyton has exceeded our expectations. [PaulHanson] Z`s not my mate... [Andz83] [/spam mode] [That_Lighty_Guy] What? dStryker is here? Great! Now we just have to get Tomislav here and we can be sure of that the discussion goes off-topic... [DanQ] Z is a machine :) [Polaris] woops [Polaris] sorry [Polaris] i was posting in the forums [Polaris] :) [Bill3000] yeah... Apolyton must be the second most popular site on GameStats [dStryker] Tomislav is in Scotland [biased] bugger bugger... BRB. [Cthol] Lightening, mullaki diconnektailee ihan sikana... [LightEning] Oh well. Perhaps you can work something out with Markos... [Andz83] stop that, Fins! [Hasdrubal] And they don't have computers yet in Scotland... [PaulHanson] Mortal Kombat! [Bill3000] hmm.. why doesn't Apolyton use frames? [mk] Eh, no :-) [LightEning] Cthol, please keep discussing with the language of the lower creatures. I have got only one disconnection tonight. [Jasonian] Hahaha!! In the "Ming Perspective" thing, Ming called the mass banning thing "Black Sunday"... and it was on Saturday! [GSquid] Because frames are EVIL!!!! [PaulHanson] Sorry:) [Polaris] Odd thing is; I am not an avid SMAC player [mk] 'ts allright :-) [DanQ] The entire Civilization community has been incredibly supportive of us, and we cannot thank you enough. It's a big reason why we're still around! [Hueij] ban frames!! [SMACFanatic] oh well I beat you there [Polaris] I used to be, but not now [Cthol] Frames are against netscape! [PaulHanson] What does mk stand for then? [DanQ] The forums have taken off like we never imagined when we first opened them. [Cthol] MK= mortal kombat! [GSquid] Mein Kampf [Bill3000] luckily. I love Civ. [mk] It should have been "monk", but apparently the o and the n got lost somewhere :-/ [DanQ] Heya mk [Polaris] Dan, hopes that happens with Carpe Diem [Hueij] DanQ, maybe it's because you picked the best game ever? :)) [Polaris] *hope [PaulHanson] In that case, hello monk [Andz83] CD? [DanQ] {{ big grin }} - Hueij [WarVoid] What's up with Carpe anyays? [Bill3000] Yeah. CIV2 RULES!!!! [mk] Thank you PH, right back at ya. [Polaris] Carpe Diem is down right now. [Andz83] Master Of MAgic rules, man! anyone ever played Master of Magic? [Polaris] We left 3D-Unlimited, and now have an anonymous host [DanQ] Having a large, constructive community following is a big reason why we have done as well as we have, yes. [Hueij] next to elite2 I only play civ nowadays [Polaris] I have.. Im doing converts for them soon [Andz83] Frodo will come here soon [WarVoid] No. Really? :-| I mean will it be up soon? [Comrade_Dan] what Andz? [DanQ] Any more Civ/Apolyton related questions for Markos and I? [Polaris] Yes [WarVoid] Yes [Polaris] it will be up in September I hope [Andz83] it's alright, CD [Bill3000] I wonder if what would happen if Art of War joined the Apolyton Network [Andz83] Master Of Magic rules, man! anyone ever played Master of Magic? [WarVoid] GOODO [Bill3000] Civ2 is better [Hasdrubal] Where can I pick up a copy of Master of Magic? [WarVoid] *cough* [Andz83] is Art of War a poster? [GSquid] Yes. I have a Civ related question. What is the attack factor of a veteran bomber from a city with an airport but no barracks? [Polaris] if that happened, id get more strategies! :) [biased] i've been playing more than my share of diablo 2 lately. and until the screwed up dreams i've been having lately, i'm not going to touch it. [Cthol] DanQ how did you and markos meet each other, and why did you decide to make the website? [PaulHanson] Yes actually: Why does Ming always call me Paul Hanson, and never Paul? Does he think that Paul Hanson is a username or something? [Bill3000] why don't you consider it Polaris, MarkG, DanQ? [Jasonian] Frames are evil! [Polaris] Andz, the Art of War is one of 3 or my websites [Andz83] Hasdrubal: there was a link given in an erlier thread! look on other games [Polaris] one of 2 for Civ [WarVoid] We need a Civ3 demo. [DanQ] I'll take Cthol's question [Jasonian] Exactly Squid! [Hasdrubal] Thanks Andz [DanQ] A lot of what you have asked is covered in our History section [Spekter] Demo [Andz83] yeah, civ3 demo. no problem, hasdru [DanQ] ( http://apolyton.net/about/history ) [Andz83] hi frodo [Cthol] Thank you DanQ. [Bill3000] WV, we are supposed to be beta testers; all of us apolytoners :) [mk] Squid, I'm still laughing out loud :-))) [Frodo] Hey yo [SMACFanatic] I have a comment rather than a question - I'm glad to see that in SMAC you can actually force the other factions to listen to you (only the Withdraw request, but it's a start :o)) whereas in CivII they could force their way in to see you but you couldn't get near them if they wouldn't let you [DanQ] Welcome [Bill3000] hi [PaulHanson] Hi there Frodo [GSquid] Hello [Frodo] I nearly missed this thing, Fortunately my flight lesson was canceled due to bad weather [DanQ] Oh yes, heya GSquid [Andz83] flight lesson? [Ramo] sup frodo [Hueij] you fly frodo? [PaulHanson] Do you know the answer to my question then Dan? [Andz83] you take flight lessons? [Frodo] Yes indeed [Spekter] Is that beta news official? [Bill3000] wow [Hueij] wow [Frodo] How's it goin', ramo? [Andz83] weird... but cool [SMACFanatic] oh yeah - DanQ, who are your favourite SMAC factions? [Jasonian] Bill, your vote at FIoJ betrays that statement [Bill3000] I guess [Hueij] hi empress [DanQ] What question was that, Paul? Sorry, it went past my 'sensors' [Andz83] Ramo: shall I buy Age of Wonders? [Hasdrubal] Hi Empress [Empress] ok does this work? [mk] DanQ, if you were a fruit, which one would it be? [Bill3000] oops.... um... delete that! :) I was crazy then! [Ramo] hell yeah [Cthol] So when will the cool guy come? [Ramo] great game [Hueij] it does [Andz83] butfor 45 $? [Andz83] a bit too much [Spekter] Cool guy? [Empress] hey,and I'm empress! yay! aT fist it told me Empress was already in use [Polaris] WELL folks [GSquid] Oh yes...we must all attack the Chrono Triggerites, who believe their game to be better than Civ. KILL THE INFIDELS!!!!! [Ramo] it's very similar to HOMM, if you've ever played it [PaulHanson] Why does Ming always call me Paul Hanson, and never Paul? Does he think it`s a username or something?:) [Polaris] I better get outta here [Cthol] oh sorry, Cool GuyS [Andz83] I played the demo, Ramo! remember? [SMACFanatic] cya Polaris [Empress] can I close out the main IRC window? or will it disconnect me? [Bill3000] you want to attack me, WarVoid, Jasonian, and Tomislav? :-) [Ramo] well.... I burned a copy of the cd from a friend ;) [Polaris] Gotta run; see you guys in the forum. [DanQ] SMACFanatic: I'm partial to the Peacekeeprs :) [Andz83] the demo of AoW. and I play HOMM regularly [Hasdrubal] Typing in Paul Hanson is to much work [Hueij] bye polaris [Jasonian] Enough with the goodo! [DanQ] mk: That's not a Civ/Apolyton related question [biased] adiue, polaris [Bill3000] bye bye bye [PaulHanson] But Paul would require less work... [mk] Aw damn :-) [Andz83] the fruit question? [Ramo] ah, yes [SMACFanatic] ditto DanQ! Few downpoints, right? I don't mind the Gaians & Peacekeepers myself [Andz83] the fruit question IS a civrelated question :) [SMACFanatic] hang on - brb - getting food [DanQ] Yes (re: fruit question) [Andz83] the fruit question IS a civrelated question :) [mk] Well, actually I don't think it is, Andz... [WarVoid] Argh. Friggin IE [Jasonian] Yes we do War! [Andz83] the answer tells something about the Personality of the civer [Hueij] Dan, how do you see apolyton in two years? :-)))))) [Bill3000] MarkG and DanQ; what are your favorite scenarios for civ2? [mk] ...although I think the question eventually needs to be answered somewhere else. [Andz83] the answer tells something about the Personality of the civer [Frodo] Hey, I sat through this incredibly boring 5-hour driver's class today for my license [Andz83] :-D [Empress] ok, so I guess I can't close out the other window.. [Cthol] I'd bet half of the ppl here, are here so that they can say:"i was in the B-day chat". otherways they couldn't care less [LightEning] DRAT! Sonera... sucks! [Ramo] I think Civ3 needs a tactical sub-game.... What do y'all think? [mk] If Apolyton was a fruit, which one would it be? [MarkG] I always prefer random games [WarVoid] There a good ques. bill [DanQ] Hueij: in short, better than ever. :) [Andz83] a large fruit [Andz83] a cool fruit [Andz83] hello? [Hueij] Dan, can I use that in your query? [Cthol] LightEning: and you were saying... :p [DanQ] Bill3000: as a sci-fi fanactic, I've always been drawn to the Star Trek/Star Wars ones [Bill3000] ok. Red Front is pretty cool, and I can't wait till Second Front comes out [Bill3000] cool! [Andz83] RedFront sucks! [GSquid] AAAK! Kill the infidel [PaulHanson] No it doesn`t! [DanQ] My "query"? What's that, Hueij? [Hasdrubal] My all-time favourite is still Jules Verne [WarVoid] Ok, besides preferences, what is your all time fav scenario, Mark and Dan? [Andz83] HAHAHA. it sucks, fellas! [Jasonian] wow? [Bill3000] KILL ANDZ! ;) j/k [Hueij] the "2 years" interview :)) [PaulHanson] I always liked USA 2010 [Cthol] LE:hahahah! :) [SMACFanatic] back [WarVoid] Heh. I wrote that. [SMACFanatic] now [PaulHanson] KILL ANDZ not j/k [DanQ] Sure Hueij :) [GSquid] I like the Ice Planet one... [Andz83] haha. no, it's just not as good as it looked in the first instance [mk] The undoubtably best scenarios of all time were made by Harlan Thompson [SMACFanatic] DanQ - are there any plans for a Civ IV? [DanQ] Keep those Civ/Apolyton related questions coming, folks. I apologize in advance if we miss any... [Andz83] slow down, SMACFanatic [GSquid] How much trade do fruit squares give? [DanQ] SMACFanatic: with CivIII still in the early stages of development... [SMACFanatic] sorry [PaulHanson] I`ve got a good one: What`s Ming`s real name?:) [mk] Lol... squid, is there a squid fan club somewhere I can join? [WarVoid] Ming the Merciless [DanQ] ... it's too early to comment on that [SMACFanatic] CivIII? [Bill3000] I am not crazy! [Hueij] Ming of the planet Mongo [SMACFanatic] no sequel to SMAC then? [Spekter] Is Ming bald? :) [GSquid] MK: As a matter of fact, yes. Try Hyperborea.cjb.net (blatant website ad) [Cthol] There is a chinese man, whose first name is ming in chigaco! [Bill3000] LOL Hueij. :-) [DanQ] GSquid: You're talking CivII? I don't know off the top of my head.... [PaulHanson] OK then: Why doesn`t he tell people what it is? [GSquid] GASO! [Andz83] and there was a Chinese Emperor called Ming! [GSquid] I mean GASP [Andz83] a whole Dynasty!!! [dStryker] Dynasty [WarVoid] and vases too [DanQ] You had another Civ related question earlier about attack points... I'm not very good in remembering those kinds of numbers. [Hueij] Ming is a vase? [WarVoid] Ming Vases [GSquid] You know what you need? You need to stop with Apolyton and go play Civ2! [dStryker] The name of the Mind dynasty family was Zhu [PaulHanson] A superintelligent one... [Hasdrubal] Didn't Ming get his name from some fantasy book? [Jasonian] He wouldn't dare [Hueij] From Flash Gordon [WarVoid] LoL [Frodo] We need a Flash Gordon moderator [Hueij] comic from the 30's [DanQ] GSquid: I always need more time to play CivII :) I play it as often as possible [Andz83] Flash Gordon rocks [Frodo] To combat Ming [PaulHanson] Maybe his names Gordon... [Hasdrubal] Flash, that's right [Cthol] Does anyone know why stefu isn't here? [Bill3000] yeah. Or go to http://geocities.com/jasonian_22 NOW!!!!!!!! [Monk] He's in... [GSquid] Someone did change their name to flash gordon, but Ming banned him :( [Monk] get this Chtol... Stefu's in Sweden :-) [Andz83] Cthol: because he's nasty? don't know [Frodo] See? Ming knows his enemies [Spekter] What size maps do you guys favour? [SMACFanatic] mmmm All Bran [Hueij] no, he changed it himself [Bill3000] Ming isn't even here [Hasdrubal] Small maps, for speed of play [SMACFanatic] Spekter - Civ II? As small as possible! [Cthol] stefu isn't here because libaries close early on saturdays... [GSquid] Oh...does anyone here know how to make those new extra-large maps? [DanQ] Mark and I are taking more Civ/Apolyton questions [Monk] I was considering to meet Stefu in Stockholm, but couldn't. [Ming] he is now! [Hueij] flah gordon----]Karsten Willy [Andz83] hey. that Ming is a DL!!!!! [Empress] you and mark never answered my question... unless I was gone at the time [Andz83] haha, PaulHanson [Empress] in which case, could you please enlighten me... [Hueij] better forget it empress :)) [DanQ] (Apolyton ones are the focus) [Bill3000] did anyone know that Karsten Willi was first Hans the Hun? :) [DanQ] GO ahead, Empress... [Spekter] You saying you don't like having one game take 500 hours to play? [Hueij] yep bill [Andz83] and now CGB Spender? [Bill3000] yep. :) [Andz83] is that right? [Hueij] yep [SMACFanatic] no Spekter, I just like lots of conflict between as many people as possible! [Empress] I asked if apolyton was going to get gender specific titles and Dan said he was leaving the question to Mark [Andz83] wow. how did he change the name before that was possible? [Monk] yeah Bill... the cool dudes do know :-/ [SMACFanatic] I don't like wiping people out 1 by 1 [Andz83] wow. how did he change the name before that was possible? [Empress] and mark totally ignored my question... but it's ok :) [Hueij] he is on acol now [Bill3000] yeah Andz [Andz83] so HOW did he? [Andz83] DL? [Hueij] just asked andz [DanQ] I deferred the question to Mark because he is the one who works on the technical side of the administration of the forums. I don't know how difficult that would be to incorporate into the forum script. [SMACFanatic] I like diplomacy and diplomatic intrigue [PaulHanson] I`m off now, but I shall return later... [GSquid] I have a serious ?. Do you use an HTML editor for Apolyton, write the code yourself, or get someone else to do it? [SMACFanatic] and if we don't get those CD plates screwed to that piano we are pss-tick-fhung [Spekter] SMACFan, do you like being really enormous? That's why I play big maps [Andz83] please answer my question, fellows! [SMACFanatic] I like big SMAC maps [Hueij] what question andz? [SMACFanatic] but little Civ II maps [Monk] GSquid - it's the html writing monkey of Starchild's, IIRC [Andz83] Reynolds? [GSquid] As in Brian Reynolds? [WarVoid] DanQ, you'd have to redo the whole registration to be gender specific. [Andz83] DL [DanQ] GSquid: We did not use an HTML editor, we wrote the code ourself. [Reynolds] hello everyone! [Andz83] DLDLDLDL [Hueij] hi paul [Bill3000] hi! [SMACFanatic] little Civ II maps for lots of diplomacy [Andz83] Reynolds isn't the real. Hi Paul hanson, yeah [Andz83] common Paul. change that [Reynolds] I decided to pop in [Hueij] andz, what question? [SMACFanatic] big SMAC maps for spread out, sprawling factions that are all big enough to have a good go at you [Monk] Reynolds... good one... I know who you are :-) [DanQ] WV: an option could always be added to the profile for people to check whether or not they were M or F [Andz83] yes we know, Reynolds. now change that name [SMACFanatic] it's like 7 big men trying to fit in a little room [Andz83] hi Bernd! [Reynolds] Monk: ok who? [WarVoid] True [Spekter] I mostly play smac so I agree [Bill3000] LOL [DanQ] Hey BeBro! Glad you could join us [Monk] Cthol [SMACFanatic] sooner or l8r one of them has to stretch, and then they're all breaking the furniture [DanQ] Markos and I are taking Apolyton/Civ related questions..... [GSquid] Have any of you ever seen the Civ scenario written by Brian Reynolds? I was really excited and downloaded it and then the readme said that it wasn't the same person who wrote Civ but someone else with the same name [biased] buggerit [BeBro] Andz, selber hi [Empress] thanks for answering my question DanQ [Hasdrubal] LOL squid [Andz83] nennt mich nicht bei meinem nickname wenn ihr den echten namen wißt [Monk] squid, yeah I have. but he was nice enough to actually TELL people :-) [DanQ] Welcome Empress [Cthol] ok, ok [WarVoid] In English [Andz83] don't call me with my nickname when you know my real name! [Spekter] But that's the fun part, breaking the furniture... [Cthol] :( [Andz83] don't call me with my nickname when you know my real name! [Bill3000] I take it it was not Brian after all. :) [SMACFanatic] exactly [BeBro] Ok Andreas [MarkG] i remember the page of that scenario squid.... [Jasonian] LOL! That's cheap Squid! [SMACFanatic] but if you're not careful someone hits you over the head with a chairleg [SMACFanatic] and then you get trampled [Andz83] so how did KarstenWilli change to KarstenWilli befoer the feature was given? [SMACFanatic] the fun part ifs playing them all off against one another [Hueij] he asked Markos [DanQ] Let's keep on topic here, folks: Apolyton/Civ questions for Markos and I. [SMACFanatic] diplomacy can do more harm than a Singularity Planet Buster [GSquid] &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&([------multiple repeated letters to get attention to this) Do you have any tips for making and promoting web sites? [DanQ] You will have all the time you want for "chat, chat" after the official portion is over. [Andz83] Markos! serious question! [Andz83] DanQ! serious question coming up! [WarVoid] Apolyton should conquer ACOL. [DanQ] OK, Andz83 [Spekter] That's why I want to see an AI good enough to play itself. [DanQ] WV: We don't "conquer" anyone! [Monk] WarVoid - just don't use the term "invade" :-D [SMACFanatic] indeed! [DanQ] Hi again LightEning [Hueij] another invasion WarVoid? [SMACFanatic] all behind that Spekter [LightEning] OK guys, looks like I won't be able to chat anymore. Going offline last time tonight, and you can enjoy the best Bryce picture I have found this far: http://www.phase2.net/claygraphics/magic.html [Monk] Like I said :-) [Andz83] well. there are 2 private messages in my inbox that I can't delete [Bill3000] yep Monk! :) [Monk] Bill - what? [Jasonian] Combat Ming's evil ways ;-) [WarVoid] Ok, DanQ, how about assimilate? [Cthol] DanQ: what civ2 unit would you be, if you'd have to pick one and why? [Andz83] see? [Andz83] well. there are 2 private messages in my inbox that I can't delete [DanQ] GSquid: hmmmm, as for making websites... [Comrade_Dan] woah - this isn't a free drinks bar! I'm outta here!!!! [Bill3000] "WarVoid - just don't use the term "invade" :-D" -- that's what. [MarkG] Squid: check an article of mine on the column about it... [GSquid] I've seen it [SMACFanatic] Spekter: the current AIs can't even deal with 2 fronts, never mind the 4 I put them through [DanQ] 1. Clean, easy-to-navigate (and fast loading) layout [Monk] Aw, OK. [GSquid] I wondered if there was antrhing else [Andz83] well. there are 2 private messages in my inbox that I can't delete [DanQ] 2. Lots of updates [Andz83] THAT WAS MY SERIOUS QUESTION [DanQ] As Markos said, you can check his column for all the details, I am just going off of the top of my head here [Spekter] Yeah I know. SMAC is really just a race to get huge and pound everyone else [DanQ] 3. Be open to criticism/changes [MarkG] Andz, live with it :) [SMACFanatic] but that's what they've tried to avoid [SMACFanatic] with the 4 diff ways of winning [Andz83] don't you care for your sheep, Markos? [SMACFanatic] instead of the 2 of Civ II [WarVoid] Ok, here's a question. [Cthol] 4. be ready for idiot web users [Andz83] don't you care for your sheep, Markos? [Hueij] DanQ, how about content? :)) [Jasonian] Well there's a fun fact [Spekter] Yeah, but the AI isn't good enough to use the other ways of winning [WarVoid] Should Civ3 have animated units? [GSquid] NO! [SMACFanatic] yeah, but at least they've tried [Andz83] AI is good enough, believe me! [DanQ] 5. Content, content, content [Andz83] :-D [Spekter] A for effort... [SMACFanatic] does no-one [Empress] no b/c that would make it too slow to play multiplayer wouldnt it? [SMACFanatic] oops [GSquid] Those are so annoying, and they ruin customization [DanQ] Yes, Hueij :) [SMACFanatic] does no-one count SMAC as a Civ III? [Monk] nihihihi.... warum wiederholst du deine Fragen, andz? [WarVoid] I'm asking for opinions. [DanQ] WV: whether CivIII should have animated units is a personal preference question [Hueij] I've seen a lot of flashy sites with nothing to tell [Spekter] SMAC = Civ 2.75 [WarVoid] I'm asking YOUR opinion. [Bill3000] no, not really Spekter. :-/ [Jasonian] Big SMAC maps are best [Spekter] Not really? [SMACFanatic] and Alien Crossfire is the other .25 [Andz83] SMAC= CIV 2.25 [Andz83] SMACX=CIV 2.3 [DanQ] Oh, hmmm... I think that animated units should be an option. "There", but can be turned off as need be. [Spekter] What about ToT? [GSquid] ToT=Civ2.5 [Bill3000] yeah! :) Not really! It's a totally different game! [Hasdrubal] SMAC is Civ trying to avoid a lawsuit [MarkG] in a way, firaxis admitted that by calling civ3 civ3 and not civ4 ;) [Hueij] let's hope they go for gameplay and not for fancy graphics [Cthol] What about CIV2:fantasy worlds... etc? [SMACFanatic] SMAC is Sid Meier trying to express his creativity in a way Microprose wouldn't let him [WarVoid] CiC and FW rock. [Bill3000] I agree WV [Andz83] CtP=CIV 0 [SMACFanatic] wot about Civ:Call To power? [Andz83] CtP sucks [Hasdrubal] FW was fantastic [Monk] WarVoid - not even remotely! The scenarios were a major rip-off in CiC for sure! [Andz83] FW was cool, yeah [Hueij] call to what? [WarVoid] CtP=Civ -1000 [Hasdrubal] CtP sucks [Andz83] CtP sucks [Andz83] I already said that [SMACFanatic] good good [Spekter] I kind of thought of SMAC as Sid playing with ideas he wasn't sure he wanted to put into CIV 3 until he knew they would work. [WarVoid] CtP REALLY sucks [DanQ] Hey folks -- no put downs, people or otherwise [Jasonian] Haha [SMACFanatic] at least people agree that SMAC is a step in the right direction [DanQ] Let's keep the questions coming to Markos and I, Apolyton/Civ related [GSquid] OK...I have another question. Mark+Dan, are you planning on getting an early copy of Civ3 in some way? [SMACFanatic] is Sid working on Civ II then? [Bill3000] sort of [SMACFanatic] should it be Civ: Reconciliation? [Hueij] hehehe [WarVoid] Yeah, answer Gs's question [Bill3000] hehehe [Jasonian] Guess not [Cthol] a press version? [DanQ] GSquid: Should the opportunity arise that Firaxis would permit us the opportunity to preview CivIII as Activision did with CTP, we would be hounoured to receieve it. [GSquid] But they haven't offered it yet? [SMACFanatic] oh good, Firaxis are doing it [SMACFanatic] they're good [Spekter] Do you know who's in on the beta? [MarkG] too far away yet squid... [Hasdrubal] Will there ever be a Apolyton chart: all posters numbered by amount of posts? [DanQ] (As Mark said) [Hueij] tehre's nothing to offer squid [Jasonian] But it's not quite as much fun. [Spekter] Are you guys going to have a sign up for the beta on Apolyton [DanQ] Hasdrubal: if I am understanding what you are asking, what purpose would it serve? [WarVoid] At least with Sid working on Civ3 we know it'll be good. [DanQ] Spekter: beta for what? :) [Monk] Speaking of post counts, any chance of seeing them abolished? The forum is cluttered with spam because of it. [Spekter] Civ 3 [Andz83] SSSSPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMM [Hasdrubal] Just serving our curiousity [Hueij] right monk [Andz83] sorry [Cthol] kick andz83 out, he's spamming. :) [DanQ] Spekter: if there is an open beta and Firaxis would grant us becoming a beta-site, absolutely. [Hueij] back to junior civer-civer [Andz83] hey, I'm not spamming :D [Spekter] It makes sense for them to come to Apolyton for testers [DanQ] I would suspect that if there was an open-beta that Firaxis would "host" it from their site [Hueij] They should hire Xin Yu for playtesting :)) [Andz83] I just pretend to be [DanQ] Either way, you can count on us reporting about it :)) [Bill3000] Hmm... I guess so DanQ [Monk] andz, Sie dürfen nicht spammen :-))) [WarVoid] Red Front was far too easy to play.... [SMACFanatic] ah, wir sprechen nur Deutsch? [Andz83] better would be 'Du darfst nicht...' but thank you for the information [Monk] Andz, you're so important to me, I'm going to talk to you in pluralis. [Jasonian] ... [Andz83] thank you Monk. ich bin sehr geehrt [Monk] smac... nicht NUR deutch... [SMACFanatic] weeeeeell [Andz83] deutch? deutsch? [SMACFanatic] school holidays [SMACFanatic] I'm forgetting already [WarVoid] IN ENGLISH DAMMIT [Monk] ja, deutsch. [Monk] OK WV :-) [Andz83] DEUTSCHI [Allen] Hi [Empress] hi [Hueij] hi allen [Spekter] Hi [WarVoid] ESPANOL [Cthol] ja deutsch! [DanQ] Hey Allen [Allen] English [Andz83] deutsch [Cthol] Finnish? [WarVoid] espanol [Bill3000] I gtg now. Maybe I'll come back late. [DanQ] Hey Lago... for those who just joined us, Markos and I are taking Apolyton/Civ related questions [Allen] do you guys play call to power [Spekter] Alas poor Iago... [Jasonian] I say no to that [Hueij] hi lago [Bill3000] Bye guys! [WarVoid] bye Bill [Hueij] bye bill, take care [Empress] bye [SMACFanatic] AAAAARGH not Shakespeare! [Bill3000] bye [Allen] Anyone play call to power [Hueij] nope :)) [Spekter] Something's fishy around here. [MarkG] there is a ctp tournament on gameleague [Empress] I don't play anything but civ MPG [lago] Haven't played ctp in months [Allen] what games do you guys play? [DanQ] http://gameleague.apolyton.net [Cthol] SMACF stop slapping! [Jasonian] Something like that... [Hueij] civ and elite2 [SMACFanatic] anyone for smoked trout? [DanQ] Allen: Civ games :) [MarkG] no violence please :) [Allen] Civ \3 is going to be great! [lago] smoked trout? is that a mod? [SMACFanatic] awww c'mon a trout here and there can't hurt?!?! [Andz83] Allen: are you sure? and why? [Hueij] i hope so allen [Monk] MarkG, have you ever considered changing your login to "Markos"? I think that's much nicer than "MarkG", I think most people would agree. [SMACFanatic] when does Civ 3 come out? [SMACFanatic] offically [Allen] Theyre going to fix all the glitches with civ2 in civ3 [Cthol] Markos/DanQ: how does it feel to be a celebrity? [DanQ] SMACFanatic: [Empress] I like the sound of Markos [Hueij] 2007 [Hueij] or 8 [Monk] See, the girls dig Markos :-/ [DanQ] Firaxis has said not in 2000 [SMACFanatic] oh boy! [lago] Civ 3 will come out like any other software product: when it's not quite ready [SMACFanatic] lol lago [Spekter] late. [Hueij] lol lago [DanQ] No official date has been set for the releae of CivIII [Arkhangel] hi all [DanQ] Hello Arkhangel, Sophix [Empress] hi [Hueij] hi viktor [WarVoid] hello [DanQ] Markso and I are talking Apolyton/Civ questions... [Sophix] hey all [Allen] But there will be mods and patches to make it ready [SMACFanatic] ooops I'm being disconnected in 4 minutes! [DanQ] Cthol (will get to your question shortly) [Hueij] &sophix [SMACFanatic] any other official chats taking place? [WarVoid] Markso? [SMACFanatic] you should have 1 a month or something [DanQ] SMACFanatic: other "official" chats? Pardon? [Cthol] Markos/DanQ: how does it feel to be a celebrity? [DanQ] Cthol: Celebrities? We are? :D [SMACFanatic] well u know wot I mean [Jasonian] We don't *know* it will be good... there's a pretty good chance though [Monk] Cthol, I heard you were the kid from the Freestyler video. True? [Monk] Hey Spamguy, I mean Andz :-/ [DanQ] Apolyton has not plans for more chats in the immeidate future, but we're hoping so down the road [Hueij] hey provostB [Cthol] Monk: who said this? [Monk] YOU. [Allen] Im going to like the diplomacy in ctp2 [Monk] Cthol, it's a rumour going around ;-) [Hueij] wb lightening [WarVoid] I'm not buying CtP 2 [Monk] LightEning, check this out! Cthol is the cute kid in the Freestyler video! [WarVoid] ROTFLMAO [Hasdrubal] Ill give CtP II a miss as well [Cthol] rumours.... i like rumours..... [Spekter] Release date for CTP2? [LightEning] Hi again DanQ, MarkG, Allen, Cthol, dStryker, Empress, Frodo, GSquid, Hasdrubal, Hueij, Jasonian, lago, Monk, Paul, Sophix, Spekter and Warvoid. [Spekter] Hi L [Hasdrubal] Hi LE [GSquid] Hi [Sophix] sometime before Christmas is thier target CTP [WarVoid] Why am I always last? ;) [DanQ] Spekter: Activision has not made one as of yet [Allen] diplomacy was really lacking in all other civ games [SMACFanatic] back [LightEning] WV: You should try a new name, like "aa-club member" [Cthol] Monk: now that stefu isn't here, you are picking on me. (monk can't keep his hands of us finns...) [MarkG] MarkG is the handle i always had..... [Frodo] Shouldn't you be asleep Lighty? :) [Hueij] keep it mark [Spekter] I need something other then SMAC for the next year or so [Jasonian] Hello [Empress] I like Markos [WarVoid] Lighty, why? [Monk] Cthol, it's nothing to be ashamed of. I would be playing with that magic minidisc as well, if I had got the chance. [SMACFanatic] oops must go again actually [Andz83] I've been to the toilet. anything important happened? :-D [LightEning] Frodo: What? Asleep? What's sleep? [SMACFanatic] byeee all [MarkG] amazon takes pre-orders for ctp2, listing a release date of november 00 [SMACFanatic] hail Apolyton [WarVoid] adios [SMACFanatic] and hail the forthcoming CivIII [Monk] Andz, what was with the spam-login thing? [LightEning] WV: If you want to be first on the username lists. [SMACFanatic] byee [SMACFanatic] god bless [DanQ] 4th quarter is what we have as a release for CTPII, and nothing more specific. [Cthol] Lightening: pakanat lukevat mikrobittiä! [Andz83] spam login? what are you talking about? [Hasdrubal] Yeah Andz. Guess what? this really annoying spammer stopped by [DanQ] Thanks SMACFanatic (re: hail) [Andz83] Cthol and Lightening: you are both saatana voi perkele [Cthol] Monk: ]:( (ps. that's a angry smiley) [WarVoid] LoL [Spekter] So probably 2nd quarter for a working version? [Monk] Aw, you Finnish dudes are so damn CUTE when you're angry! [WarVoid] Are Mark and Dan still here? [LightEning] Andz: I'm sorry... Blame Cthol! Blame Cthol! [Andz83] I was only kidding! [MarkG] i think it will be certainly be out for christmas... [Hasdrubal] M and D are angrily awaiting Civ-questions [Spekter] I think they were hoping for questions with a little substance. [DanQ] Yeah WV, we're still here [WarVoid] goodo [LightEning] ÁRGH! [LightEning] This time a bit styled. [Stewart] Good evening all! [Hueij] hi stew [Empress] Hi there [Hasdrubal] Hi S [DanQ] Yes, Markos and I are here to answer Apolyton/Civ questions (since this is our Birthday Chat, Apolyton is the primary focus of it) [Cthol] Monk: he already replied. [DanQ] Hey Stewart [Monk] nihihihi [WarVoid] hi S [Andz83] stewart spink? [LightEning] Hi beef stew! [Stewart] Thanks to everyone who said hi to me, it was a nice welcome :-) [Jasonian] Is it known? [Monk] what? who replied? [Stewart] LightEning, you're SOOOOO funy! [Andz83] hi stewart [Cthol] Markos already replied to that question. [Stewart] Yes, hi Andreas :-) [Monk] ... [DanQ] (Let me say again that if we miss any Apolyton/Civ question of yours, it is not intentional or personal) [Sophix] So does anyone have any idea how close CTP is to beta [DanQ] (directed to us, that is) [WarVoid] Andreas is a girls name.... [Andz83] aaah. he understood that I like it to be called with my real name [Cthol] hello ni...stewart! [DanQ] Sophix: negative. [Andz83] Andrea is a girls name. Andreas is a male name [MarkG] and I also happen to work on the last issue of the newsletter :) [Jasonian] Good day [Hasdrubal] What do y'all think of ToT? [WarVoid] buenos dias [LightEning] When are we going to hear MarkG's voice on newsletters? [LightEning] And most imporantly... [Andz83] Andrea is a girls name. Andreas is a male name [WarVoid] It's good. But could use a lot of work. [DanQ] LE: yes, I know there has been a delay in the audio version of the newsletters. [LightEning] How much revenue does Apolyton give you? [DanQ] I think that is what you're going to be getting at :) [WarVoid] Andreas is a girls name.... That's final. [Andz83] NO IT'S NOT [DanQ] It hasn't been cancelled or anything, I've just been busy with other matters. [Stewart] It's a unisex name :-) [Hueij] Markos, about the news, can't you say "this IS the news" instead of "this ARE the news"? :)) [Andz83] 'Andrea' is a girls name. 'Andreas' is a male name. my name is Andreas. with 's'. [WarVoid] My cousin is named Andreas. and SHES a GIRL. [Hasdrubal] Andreas is a girlie, going through that puberal fase where you're insecure about your gender [Monk] ,,,,.....,.,,, [LightEning] We have a male dog called Niki, and I know a Bulgarian guy whose sister is called Niki. But that's OT. [WarVoid] ROTFLMAO [Andz83] AHA. NICE TO KNOW!!! [Spekter] How about Kelly? [DanQ] LE: I'm the reader on the audio version of the newsletter. Markos puts it together, and I read it. [MarkG] Hueij, where do I say that? [Stewart] You can always call yourself Andy to appease the Americans, Andreas... [LightEning] OK. And now, the revenue? How much do you get? [Hueij] Markos, in that mail you send me every week :))) [MarkG] You dont want to hear how I speak english... :) [Empress] yeah, andy would be nice :) [WarVoid] I want to know if Mark, Dan and Ming get paid? [Empress] Oh yes we do Markos! :) [DanQ] re: revenue -- that's a very personal question. Not to be rude, but it is not any of your business. I can tell you that we are not "living" off of any revenue we make and most of it goes back into improving Apolyton. [Andz83] Andreas (me) is still a male name [MarkG] well, my copy, which i have in front of me says "these are the news" [Jasonian] Hey! Where are these so-called "Special Guests" that should be here?! [Hasdrubal] Or maybe Ants [Andz83] Stefu is a semi-girl, not me! [Spekter] Any Groo fans here? [Stewart] LOL! [Paul] Markos: yes, we want to hear you speak. [Hasdrubal] What is Groo? [Andz83] yeah. where are the special guests? [Spekter] Comic book [Frodo] Groo is the one who Errs...:) [Stewart] Greek accents are horrible :-) [DanQ] Jasonian: we never promised any "special guests", we just said that there might be some joining us [WarVoid] So you guys DO get paid though? [Andz83] what about German accents? [Spekter] You've read it I see, Frodo [Hueij] Markos, that's what I mean, shouldn't it be "this is the news"? [Stewart] even worse Andz [Empress] I don't know if I have ever haeard a greek accent? [Frodo] Yes, i have several Groo collections [Andz83] he's a girl? [Stewart] it sounds Greek, Empress [LightEning] Can you hear as the crowd starts whining first just a little, but then they start yelling about everything and soon you don't want to hear it anymore... [DanQ] Hey Monks_Enemy [Monks_Enemy] damn i got disconnected again!! ]:( [Jasonian] Hello again LightEning [Andz83] German accents are worse than Greek accents? [LightEning] Well, hi, Jas. [Stewart] Hang on, so Stefu is a boy then?! HUH! [Spekter] I was going to bring up a Mark E. pay joke a while back... [Andz83] German accents are worse than Greek accents? [DanQ] WV: we are not paid a salary [MarkG] Dan, can you find my pronounciation of Apolyton? :) [WarVoid] Yeah, but you get paid nonetheless. [Stewart] Not paid a salary, just get regular backhanders, eh :-) [Hasdrubal] Hi Guest. Are you anybody we know? [MarkG] Hueij, what's wrong with "Greetings everyone, [MarkG] these are the news of the period 11-20/July/00 [MarkG] This is sent in the middle of our "2 Years of Apolyton" Chat, which you can join at [MarkG] http://apolyton.net/about/2years/chat.shtml [MarkG] or with mirc at the [MarkG] #apolyton channel at irc.dreamnet.org [guest] nope [MarkG] The web version of this newsletter will be posted soon at [MarkG] http://apolyton.net/misc/newsletter/00/00-07-20a.shtml [MarkG] The main headlines are: [WarVoid] Under the table eh? [MarkG] - Firaxis 4 Years Contest! [MarkG] http://apolyton.net/misc/newsletter/00/00-07-20a.sht [MarkG] argh! sorry... :) [Andz83] huH? [DanQ] re: Markos' pronunication of "Apolyton" [Andz83] what was that? [Hasdrubal] Talk about spam... [MarkG] nothing, wrong copy/paster :) [DanQ] I should be able to find it. It's on my old PC [Hueij] hahahahahaha........ okay Markos :)))))))))) [Andz83] aha. interesting, Markos [Monks_Enemy] Markos should make a wav-file ! of he saying apolyton [Andz83] incompetent admins... ;-) [MarkG] the bot stopped me though :D [WarVoid] Good idea ME [Hueij] it's just the "these are the news" [DanQ] WV: any revenue we receive is passed purely on our sites performance (ad stats). [DanQ] Again, most of that goes right back into Apolyton. [MarkG] Last issue of newsletter(whoe begining you just saw) mailed just now... [Hueij] somehow it doesn't sound right [Monks_Enemy] Lightening miten voi vaihtaa nimeä kesken chatti hetken? [Andz83] I wonder where the special guests are [Spekter] Ming's wife has him chained up in the basement... [WarVoid] ah, now I understand Dan. Thanx [Andz83] I wonder where the special guests are [Andz83] I wonder where the special guests are [DanQ] Andz: already dealt with this :) [LightEning] Oh well, I think I'm satisfied. But wait until the third year and then... ;) [DanQ] Welcome WV [Andz83] but not really, Dan! [Jasonian] UGH! [LightEning] Cthol/ME: /NICK Kayttajanimesi [WarVoid] eh? [Monks_Enemy] ME: /Cthol [Monks_Enemy] ME: /NICK CTHOL [markusf] Bayern!. Did i spell that right? [LightEning] Grr... ME meant Monks Enemy... [Spekter] Alas, poor Iago (again) [Monks_Enemy] oh :) [MarkG] Ming is taking a after-golf nap... :) [LightEning] "/NICK Cthol" will do the trick. [Stewart] GOLF? That's for women! [DanQ] heheheheh (re: MarkG) [DanQ] Golf is most certainly not for women. [DanQ] not just for women! It's for men and women [LightEning] Does anybody support my theory anymore? [Cthol] Ming's playing golf right now [DanQ] Of any ange [Hueij] he played golf while he knew we were waiting for him? [LightEning] That Ming is too senile to remember the chat? [WarVoid] Gold is for old people. [Andz83] if you're from Bayern, why aren't you sure then whether you spelled it right or not? [Spekter] Then why was it invented in a country where the men wear skirts :) [WarVoid] Golf [DanQ] Poor Ming, not even hear to defend himself :) [LightEning] And silver for the young? M) [Hueij] don't worry Dan, we will talk to him :)) [Cthol] remember ming well see every dirty thing you "write" about him! [Stewart] "Poor Ming?" - I reckon he's richer than all of us (except you Dan and markos, who are millionaires from Apolyton ad revenue) [DanQ] Stewart: we most certainly are not millionaries. [LightEning] Yeah... darn conservatives... [DanQ] Now, we need to get back on topic. Apolyton/Civ related questions for Markos and I. [LightEning] They get 2 dollars per seven months. [Stewart] You deserve to be millionaires Dan :-) [DanQ] markusf: please discuss this after the official portion of the chat or elsewhere, thank you [Spekter] Canada [Cthol] kanada [DanQ] Thanks Stewart... :) [DanQ] Hey Lennix, glad you could join us [LightEning] But, to the questions. Who is Lennix? [DanQ] MarkG and I are taking Apolyton/Civ related questions [Hueij] okay, apolyton then... are you planning to fan out like some people suggested? [Cthol] Monk: where were you, i was so worried!! [DanQ] Hueij: I know what you are eluding to, but please be more specific [MarkG] fan out? [Hasdrubal] I'm off. See ya all! [Cthol] Monk: what if you would have fallen in the way to the fridge?! [lennix] actually...maybe even more... I dunno where you're countin grom. [WarVoid] ye [lennix] grom = from [DanQ] Bye Hasdrubal. Thanks for joining us! [LightEning] Thanks. I wondered because looked like DanQ gave you a special greeting. [Empress] how do you change the font color to purple? [Cthol] Monk: Cat caught your tongue? [Stewart] Type "/purple" before you write anything, Emp [lennix] Empress: /me (text) [Hueij] well, those celebrities on your "two years" interviews suggested you should cover other games as well [monk] my computer broke down [Stewart] yeah...! [DanQ] Hey ddddf [Andz83] well then. as there aren't any special guests here nor an interesting topic, I'll quit now [LightEning] OK, question. Should we declare this chat unofficial until the "special quests" come? [Hueij] hi bd [Cthol] Reynolds was here already. [Andz83] I said that I'll quit now [Hueij] bye andz *** DanQ sets mode: +m [DanQ] Attention please... [DanQ] I'm just going to have this on moderated for a minute or less [DanQ] This will be the last call for Apolyton/Civ questions to Markos and I, and afterwards... [DanQ] ... the official portion of the chat will be over. [DanQ] I can see that people are wanting to discuss------ other things. :) [DanQ] So, during the last 10 minutes of the official portion... [DanQ] ... please stay "on-topic" -- again, that's Apolyton/Civ questions. [DanQ] Thank you for your co-operation. *** DanQ sets mode: -m [LightEning] Ah, I didn't know, stupid Sonera didn't let me be online on that moment. What did he say then? (the Reynolds guy) [WarVoid] Oh come now Dan, you know you want to spam along with us.... :) [markusf2] Ya how come none of you know how to use a database or SQL :) [Andz83] I said that I'll go so I want some nice 'goodbye' words [Andz83] I said that I'll go so I want some nice 'goodbye' words [DanQ] Not while I'm working anyway :) [Hueij] nah, dan is too serious :)) [Andz83] I said that I'll go so I want some nice 'goodbye' words [monk] Hey Cthol, [WarVoid] uh oh, my boss is here. [lennix] aright...I've got a general question...after playing Civ2 for four years, I'm finally going to upgrade to something...in your collective opinions, for someone who enjoys the diplomacy more than war/building, what should I get? CTP? Or should I wait for either CTP2/CivIII? [Cthol] yees...? [Hueij] hey, i said bye [WarVoid] Get ToT [Andz83] yes Hueij but you were the only one [LightEning] Bigger is better, wait for Civ3 :). [Hueij] wait for civ3 [Empress] play Multiplayer civ for diplomacy :D [Cthol] LE: he said VERY interesting things, sorry you missed it. [Paul] wait for CTP2/Civ3 [DanQ] Hey Reismark! Good to see you. [Andz83] *sniff* [DanQ] We're in the last 10mins of the official portion of the chat, Markos and I taking Apolyton/Civ related questions [LightEning] Cthol: Like what? Could somebody here give an explanation, or do I have to wait until I can get to see the transcripts? [monk] cthol? [reismark] hey guys... good to know things are going alright without me :) [Empress] Do you guys [dan q and Markos] ever play gameleague games? [Hueij] well, those celebrities on your "two years" interviews suggested you should cover other games as well [Hueij] are you? [WarVoid] Reismark, you should be off updating HAC. [Cthol] Someone give a explanation to LE of what Reynolds said, i'm too tired... [DanQ] Empress: do we participate in GameLeague tournaments? No, we don't -- we just don't have the time. :( [Cthol] YES MONK?! [LightEning] Please... [Empress] That's very sad indeed :( [reismark] yes, i know... **gives a sheepish look** [WarVoid] We need more contests at Apolyton. [Andz83] OK, folks. I'll go now [Cthol] you'r trying to irritate me again.... grrrr..... [MarkG] we're already covering Dinosaurs, a most proably real time game... [Empress] I agree, more contests :) [monk] Yes, and I'm doing it with succes :-) [markusf2] I am going to startup my own apolyton [monk] You're as cute as Stefu... [reismark] my next project will also cover Dinos too [Hueij] yeah, but that's not what they meant Markos [WarVoid] I mean Apolyton sponsored contests. [Andz83] and people tell me that I'm not ignored... :-( [DanQ] WV, re: contents -- we arrange what we can. We try to tie them in into game/expansion releases etc. [MarkG] as for a bigger expansion, we prefere covering a few games in a good way, than 20 games in lousy way... [DanQ] markusf2: what do you mean your "own Apolyton"? [Hueij] glad to hear that Markos [Ming] bye, andz [WarVoid] Why not let us Civers create some fanciful contests? [Empress] I agree, you should stick to Civ and Civ only :D [andz83] thank you, Ming [Cthol] LE they don't want to say it to you, they want to keep it all to them selves... :( [DanQ] WV: send us a formal proposal, and we'll take a look at it [reismark] Dan: He means something like a homepage you can customize (like MSN or My Netscape) [WarVoid] Yes. Give us something to do. [monk] oh cthol, dear... [Cthol] Monk: could you give me your ICQ number, so i can hack in to your computer. [MarkG] how about writing columns? :) [monk] Mietin tässä, että millainen Bomfunk MC's:in keulakuva, tiedäthän se tyyppi, joka antoi sinulle maagisen minidiscin, oikein on? Onko hän yhtä söpö kuin sinä? [LightEning] I can give a good note: Use proxomitron if you want to customize Apolyton. [DanQ] We're always looking for people to help out around the site. Now that we know that there are some interested parties, we'll see what we can come up with :) [DanQ] More than likely it will have something to do with our file databases....... [WarVoid] GOODO [Stewart] Nothing too strenuous though, our poor minds couldn't handle it...well mine certainly couldn't :-) [Cthol] Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnkkkkkkkk [Cthol] hey andz [WarVoid] How about having a SpamFest 2000 contest??? ;) [DanQ] 5 minutes left in the official portion of the chat [reismark] ah yes, the tedium of adding add-ons to the database... i remember it well.... [LightEning] WV, ARGH! [DanQ] Las chance to ask Markos and I Apolyton/Civ related questions "live" :)) [Hueij] ming: worldonline.nl??????? [WarVoid] Hi Ming [monk] cthol, whatcha saying? and ain't ya gonna answer my question? [DanQ] No, that was not the real Ming [Empress] would'nt .nl mean netherlands? [Cthol] ]:( [DanQ] I believe that is correct, Empress [Hueij] empress yes, and we are proud of it :))) [LightEning] OK, still a question. WAS REYNOLDS HERE? WHAT DID HE SAY? [WarVoid] Um, my question? [LightEning] Or did Cthol just lie? [Hueij] no he wasn't lE [MarkG] no, he wasnt LE [DanQ] LE: "the" Brian Reyonlds? No. [Empress] I HATE when people keep swtiching their screen names!! grrr... [WarVoid] I agree [Cthol] a person named Reynolds was here... [Empress] That's all that happend last apolyton chat I went to [markusf2] stop whining empress :) [Hueij] what happened to the purple empress? [LightEning] Well, thank you, Cthol. [monk] Cthol - I'm 33574016, by the way [monk] Only ONE word is allowed Cthol [monk] What the hell is a bo? [Hueij] beau [Stewart] Brother [LightEning] If those special quests come here, will the official portion of the chat be made longer? [DanQ] Last call for Apolyton/Civ related questions for Markos and I as the official portion of the 2nd Birthday Apolyton chat comes to a close......... [WarVoid] I notice Dan and Mark aren't answering my question.... [Monks_Little_Bo] the was no more space... .( [Monks_Little_Bo] :( [DanQ] WV: Sorry, what was your question? [monk] My Bo isn't little, whatever a Bo is X-( [reismark] One thing M&D... what needs redesigning [a_Cute_boy] happy now monk? [WarVoid] SpamFest a leagl spamming contest. [monk] That's better. [a_Cute_boy] once again i defeated you [Stewart] monk...make your M a capital letter please!! [a_Cute_boy] :D [LightEning] This chat was worse than the first one... [Empress] a cute boy? how original :p [WarVoid] LoL [Stewart] THANKS :-) [Monk] Empress, it's caused by a belief that I hold... [a_Cute_boy] Monk: i am not like stefu... i don't get angry like he does. [Monk] that Finns are so damn cute, all of them :-) Especially Cthol, I love his dreadlocks and hip-hop clothing. [MarkG] reismark: the smac, civ2 and ctp are waiting for their new "faces".... [reismark] and i will remain capital-letter-challenged [DanQ] OK, unless they are no more questions for Markos and I, I'm going to make this channel moderated one more time and close the official portion of this chat. [a_Cute_boy] dreadlock? could you please say that in finnish. [WarVoid] MY QUESTION [a_Cute_boy] goodbye! DanQ and Markos [DanQ] Everyone is welcome to a piece of cake. Everyone, here you go! [Monk] Dreadlock. Your hairstyle when you were in the Bomfunk videos. [DanQ] :) [Empress] well, it is a party :D [DanQ] What question, WV? About SpamFest? [markusf] wheres the alchol? [WarVoid] Why not? [Gman14] hey all [LightEning] Did you know? Ming has 9971 posts. [DanQ] Sorry, there may be underage people joining our party today. No alcohol during the official portion of the chat [LightEning] Gman, what a great timing! [Stewart] Hello Richard! [Gman14] yep [DanQ] Send us a proposal WV. [LightEning] Everybody comes here when the official portion ends... [Gman14] was at thee movies [WarVoid] Hi AI [Harrison] Hello... [Monk] LoL, Dan, pass me a beer :-) [DanQ] Hey Gman14, Harrison, just closing up the official portion now.... [WarVoid] Where do I send it? [Harrison] The official portion? [DanQ] Monk: in a minute or two: [Monk] No, not the minidisc!! [DanQ] :) [DanQ] Yeah, Harrison... [DanQ] This is Apolyton's 2nd birthday chat... [markusf] You guys ever considered selling apolyton? [Harrison] How much would you take for it? [Stewart] $10000? [DanQ] ... and in the official portion Markos and I are answering your Apolyton/Civ related questions, but we're almost done. [Harrison] I'll get saving up... [DanQ] markusf, Harrison: never thought of it, no. [WarVoid] They make too much off it to sell. [markusf] well no i would guess it would be worth about to about 1 million US. [Harrison] Sorry chaps, I forgot to bring a bottle :-) [reismark] he loves it too much... i knew it... :) [Stewart] They get around $330,000 each a year from advertising, they said earlier [Stewart] (joke) [Gman14] :) [Harrison] Wow, that aint bad... [a_Cute_boy] this chat's no fun *starts crying* [DanQ] If anyone is serious about buying Apolyton, feel free to write Markos and I :) [reismark] Stewart - i hope so :) [Harrison] Yes it's me. I forgot it won't take more than one word... [DanQ] LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS [Monk] wait... Raymond Ebanks took away that discman of yours! You don't have it anymore! [markusf] No but i would guess 10 grand a month in advertising :) [Harrison] What kind of questions? [reismark] What happens when the official portion is over? [LightEning] Hmm... yes, how much does five kilograms of Apolyton cost? [DanQ] If we don't get to yours, we apologize... [Harrison] The unoffficial portion starts.... [Harrison] help [a_Cute_boy] Monk: yes i admit my minidisc is a fake :( [DanQ] markusf: no way [YYYH] Maybe this'll get attention. :) [DanQ] Harrison: not until I say so :) [Empress] Grr.. How do I slap Stew around so he'll feel like he is getting attention? [reismark] WV: you're shaming HAC ;) [DanQ] After the official portion is over, everyone is free to stay around and chat about whatever [Harrison] sorry, forgot to add a certain something to that... [Monk] Cthol, what's your ICQ number, I'll add you even if you won't add me :-( [Empress] and i thought YYYH is having his wedding right now?! [Stewart] Empress...take your hand...and kind of swing it. That's how you slap someone. [Harrison] HAC seems eerily deserted when I was in there today, WV Reismark.... [YYYH] Is he? [DanQ] OFFICIAL CHAT END: [1 min [Gman14] teehhee [reismark] HAC is ALWAYS deserted :( [a_Cute_boy] 60366970 [Empress] yes, it was at 4! hehe so I DONT' think he would be here :p [Harrison] So I've missed most of this official stuff then.... [markusf] You gotta be kidding? we are pulling in $20,000 month in add revenue with about a million impressions, which is vasically pageviews. [Spekter] Harry: not really :) [DanQ] Sorry Stewart, that is not a decision that Markos or I can make [Harrison] WHo are you, spekter? [Gman14] who does hen? [DanQ] Not kidding Markus, no. [a_Cute_boy] Monk could you give me your ICQ number so i can hack your PC? [reismark] once the official portion's over, i'll talk to you guys about my next project (which should do better than HAC) *** DanQ sets mode: +m [DanQ] OK folks :) [DanQ] I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for joining our celebration today. [DanQ] To everyone who asked questions, thank you :) [DanQ] Markos and I look forward to chatting with you all again real soon, and hopefully before our next birthday celebration! [DanQ] Have a good weekend, everyone! [DanQ] Markos, any closing comments? :) [MarkG] nope [DanQ] OK then. The official portion of our chat is over! [DanQ] And with that, I will be off. [DanQ] TTYL, [DanQ] DAN *** DanQ sets mode: -m